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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by Teddy » 19 Jul 2017, 07:26

grandduke wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 08:26
Tell me Teddy, what do you think Jesus meant when he
said to his disciple's "ye be Gods" and i might add he was
not talking in the physical sense in my view.?
The quote is from John 10 verse 34 Jesus is quoting from Psalm 82 verse 6
The context of Psalm 82 is a rebuke to unjust judges who are acting as god's representative "as gods" among his people but are being unjust in their treatment of poor & innocent.
If you compare Exodus 21 verses1-6 & note that the master is to take the willing slaves to the "Judges" in fact the Hebrew word translated "Judges"is "elohim " or gods.This is true in Exodus 22 verse 9
So Jesus is saying if Scripture speaks to specially commissioned individuals who represent God in what they are doing as "elohim" or gods then why should I not speak of myself in the same way. I also have been sent & I have been commissioned.
This is taken from William Barclay's Commentary GD.

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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by grandduke » 19 Jul 2017, 14:04

Agreed, Teddy but I do not approach this from a bible view,
why because the bible has in my view been manipulated by
the churches founding Fathers to benefit themselves and not
the people they are supposed to serve, evidence of that of late
is found in the royal commission.
I come to this discussion on the premise of esoteric philosophy
and I quote this sentence which in my view shines a light on
Jesus statement to his disciples "ye be Gods"
Atma or Atman is the highermost part of every being. It is the eternal essential nature of all. It is pure eternal Spirit; our Higher Self; the One Universal Self of All. It is indivisible, impartite, unconditioned, undifferentiated, and infinite. It is the Infinite. Although Atma can technically be thought of apart from Buddhi, Buddhi cannot be properly spoken of or thought of without Atma, since Atma is its origin, its source, its life, its essence. Buddhi is viewed as the vehicle of and for the Light of Atma.
“You see things; and you say, ‘Why?’ But I dream things that never were; and I say, ‘Why not?’”
George Bernard Shaw

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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by Dreamweaver » 19 Jul 2017, 15:17

If you are able to see something of God in every person, you are indeed blessed, Dukey.
If on top of that, you can reach into some of the worst people and appeal to that Essence, then
you are indeed benefiting the world. Imho! :happy-sunshine:

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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by grandduke » 19 Jul 2017, 15:41

No Dreamweaver, each individual's actions good or bad are
measured by Karma the universal law, we influence the world
by our own thoughts and actions, however, i am like others a
prisoner to my emotions. 8-[ 8-[ 8-[ :hitting_wall
“You see things; and you say, ‘Why?’ But I dream things that never were; and I say, ‘Why not?’”
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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by kfchugo » 19 Jul 2017, 15:59

The thrust of "Karma" is that the universe is kept in balance - yin and yang, good versus evil etc. If this were true, good individuals would be rewarded by life while evil-doers would be punished. So often we see virtual saints who suffer all through their lives and die in agony from some dreadful disease while evil criminals go through life stealing, raping, killing etc and die peacefully in their sleep. Karma is a great theory but defies logic or practical application.

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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by Dreamweaver » 19 Jul 2017, 16:11

Hugo, if you mean one incarnation of any person, you are certainly right. But many believe that there is only one life before that life is analysed and 'judged', then another 'life time' of lessons begins, in which karma from the previous is an element. This new lifetime could be hellish or heavenly, or just anything in between.

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Re: Meaning of life?

Post by grandduke » 19 Jul 2017, 19:43

But Hugo its there, it matters not what we think of it
because it's a law of the universe and one day we will all
come to the realization after having our backsides kicked
often enough.
“You see things; and you say, ‘Why?’ But I dream things that never were; and I say, ‘Why not?’”
George Bernard Shaw

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