Back pain...again

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Back pain...again

Post by Perrorist » 21 Oct 2017, 18:06

It's come to this: I've had to ask my wife to nag me to do my exercises because in less than six weeks I've managed to put my back out again. It's muscular (I hope) and I get over it within a week, but it's very limiting while it lasts.

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Post by Dreamweaver » 21 Oct 2017, 18:22

Chiropractors have had a wonderful effect on generations of my family, but if the problem is solely muscular, do look for a good myotherapist. May not be cheap, one who is also a sports physiologist is best bet money-wise.

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Post by Perrorist » 21 Oct 2017, 18:31

I regard chiropractors as quacks, because their practice is based on a flawed theory. I had to look up myotherapy. Wikipedia says "While based on rational principles, there is little scientific research regarding the efficacy of this therapy, so it remains controversial within the medical and academic disciples." In other words, there are no double-blind studies to prove the efficacy one way or the other.

The problem with many of these therapies, indeed with many "cures", is that left untreated patients would have recovered anyway. That will be the case for me, based on previous episodes. I'll be fit and dangerous in a few days.

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Post by Dreamweaver » 22 Oct 2017, 01:17

I felt the same about chiropractors until I went to one in desperation. The birth of my 3rd baby left me not only with back pain, but I couldn't lift him out of bassinet or pram. GPs told me it was arthritis, they could give me pain relief but no cure and I would be in a wheelchair in 3 years. I had a little baby I couldn't properly care for. The chiropractor I was recommended to was a doctor of chiropractic, had done his 5 years in an American hospital, and wouldn't touch anyone without an xray - unlike the Australian trained ones. He explained that the damage to my spine was comparable to a damaged hose that leaked where it had a kink. Straightening the kink won't cure the damage, but allows the water to run through, the hose becomes functional again. I was treated and benefited from that level of a 'cure'. Chiropractors did cure my daughter of a neck injury that physios had been unsuccessfully treating; of my son's asthma, although his allergy shifted to rhinitis - the next weakest area after his lungs improved; another daughter of a collapsing knee; and another son of sciatica.

My experience with myotherapy was quite recent. I had tendonitis in my achilles tendon, the gp referred me to physios and podiatrists (including orthotic aids). Nothing worked, and it was a podiatrist who suggested that I try myotherapy. Not cheap, and the visits were to be weekly, tapering off gradually. In fact by the second visit I was cured, completely.

So I can speak only from experience. Without that I would probably share your opinion, Perry. But isn't it worth to you a try?

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Post by Perrorist » 22 Oct 2017, 07:37

Many of these questionable remedies have been shown to be induced by confidence in the cure. A surgeon who specialised in bone disorders told me that he gets a lot business because of chiropractors. My wife, who's had spinal problems for over 40 years tried a chiropractor at one stage and felt worse afterwards. That's not to say all chiropractors are incompetent, but spinal manipulation is a dangerous practice and I would never try it.

Anyway, since my previous post my back pain has got so bad I can hardly climb stairs. Getting in and out of bed was a very painful experience. Serves me right for being lazy.

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Post by Dreamweaver » 22 Oct 2017, 08:42

Hoping for a quick improvement, Perry. :good_luck

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Post by Biggdad » 22 Oct 2017, 22:52

In the mid Nineties, I had serious back pain & my doctor sent me for the usual basic Xray which showed all black spots
across my lower back, which they recommended an MRI as they thought I had Bone cancer.
My doctor got me an urgent appointment the next day & they found I had arthritis & calcification where the nerves pass though
the backbone to the spinal cord. At 78 I am still with this condition on morphine, Have had multiple spinal injections over the years.
Friends I know who have had spinal surgery fell o/k for a few months & then their symptoms come back.
Be careful what operations or treatment you decide upon & also GET A FEW OPINIONS before making any decisions!
My opinion , Stay away from chiropractors!

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Post by Perrorist » 23 Oct 2017, 06:49

Thanks, BD. I think it's muscular, though I've not seen a doctor. Apparently, if you have severe back pain you're likely to get a repeat episode after about six weeks. That's what's happened to me. I tried exercising after the first event and was soon back to hauling locomotives with my teeth, but then I got lazy, dropped the exercises and spent too much time at my desk. As I say, it serves me right. It could have been avoided.

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Post by Dreamweaver » 23 Oct 2017, 08:58

Biggdad, that is why people need to have xrays before treatment. I don't know what the situation is now, but once Australian chiropractors could register with far less training than an American trained DC (Doctor of Chiropractic). Things could be different now, as they are covered by Medibank, and are part of the Allied Health scheme, where GPs refer pensioners to 5 free treatments a year by physiotherapists, chiropractors, podiatrists, psychologists, dietitians, optometrists, sports and exercise physiologists, speech therapists, etc.

As yet myotherapists are not included, but are covered to a certain extent by Medicare, and my GP sanctioned myotherapy for my tendonitis when a podiatrist referred me there.

Chiropractors are also referred by GPs. When there is calcification of the spine no direct manipulation is given, but pressure on surrounding areas frees the nerves that run from the spine to other areas of pain or dysfunction.

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Re: Back pain...again

Post by terra » 25 Oct 2017, 07:58

My Doctor GP told me many years ago that you cannot "put your back out". If it was "out", your spine would be fractured.

He said that it's common jargon used by bonecrackers and the like! :twocents-mytwocents:
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