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Over cenuries we have lost many words, but I just realised one is in the process of leaving now. Hale as in 'hale and hearty.' I gather it means 'whole' or 'healed'.
Words also change meaning over time.
Do you know of any going out of fashion, or changed meaning?
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I thought 'hale' meant 'in good health'.

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It certainly seems to now. I think it has grown out of being the pronunciation of 'whole' and the pronunciation of 'heal', so 'healthy' would be a natural outcome?
'Hale' seems to also be changing (or changed) to 'hail', with a change in meaning too. To hale someone was to wish them good health as a greeting, I think, but changing from a salutation to a salute, a sign of admiration and deference, as in Hale Caesar (Now Hail Caesar). Hailing a taxicab is a further step, where we almost give a Nazi salute to gain the driver's attention! :lol:

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The archaic usage is as a synonym for 'haul', as in 'haled out of my seat'. It's from Middle French 'haler'.

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Now I'm surprised as how it made the transitions! Hale and hearty?
I don't know where I saw the references to whole and heal, but I think they are still relevant as sometimes there are mixed origins.
Like 'Pommy' being derived from Prisoner of Mother England and also derived from Cockney rhyming slang of 'Pomegranate' for 'Immigrant'.
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'Pomegranate" is far more likely than the suggested acronym, which I find to be a bit of a stretch.

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Yous

I used to love the way Aussies (especially in the country) used to change a singular you into a plural.
Are yous kids coming.?
Now due to grammar Nazis it has disappeared. CJ Dennis loved it too.
Gone forever.
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I still hear it around, maybe not as much as I used to.

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Perrorist wrote:
21 Jan 2021, 16:06
I still hear it around, maybe not as much as I used to.
How lovely. I have not heard it for years. Replaced mostly with Americanisms like ..you guys.

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Very rare to hear American terms like,"you guys",where I come from. Still regularly hear the word,"yous",though. Maybe,that is because of the area's history of coal mining and steelmaking.
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Some years ago my son complained of the ambiguity of using 'you' for both singular and plural, and started to consciously use 'yous'.
I havent heard it from him in recent years, he may have gone over to 'you all', 'you both', 'you folk', or similar. :lol:
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An old word, spuddle, seems to be making a comeback due to our ineffective government members. It seems to be derived from 'piss puddle', so spuddling can relate to many different actions, but the present meaning seems to be -

To waste time and not get on with the task at hand.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spuddle

To work ineffectively, to be extremely busy while acheiving absolutely nothing.
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