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Home schooling

Post by mavisbramston » 20 Jun 2018, 18:52

Sorry if this is in the wrong section but cannot decide where this topic should go.
I think home schooling is a total disaster.
There I said it.
Having met many kids who have been home schooled they are all moronic, selfish and parochial.
There may be smart ones but I have never met any.
Their social skills are pathetic.
Ban it.
Home schooling is a kind of abuse.

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Post by Perrorist » 21 Jun 2018, 08:58

I worked with a bloke once who was very religious. His wife home-schooled their three kids. I never met them, so I can't comment on how they turned out, but one import aspect of school education is socialisation. I wonder how that is addressed by home schoolers.

BTW, I arranged for him to be sacked, as he was bullying my female staff.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by mavisbramston » 21 Jun 2018, 09:34

There seems to be a view in society that the only people who have rights over children are their parents. If parents believe ,egotistically , they are better than trained teachers then they play their head games on their kids. They produce socially retarded no hopers.
They have a right they believe to teach their kids to believe in racism sexism and honophobia. They can even teach kids about sky fairies.They imprison their kids in their safety nets teaching no one else is to be trusted. They teach fear.
If they have precious ill informed views against vaccinations they are free to risk the lives of their kids juat to appease their egos.
You do not OWN children ..you are responsible for them. There is a difference.
You teach them to be part of society with diversity you do not teach them to be hermits.
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Re: Home schooling

Post by kfchugo » 21 Jun 2018, 10:14

Mavis, many of your comments are well founded, but I fear you are taking a "one-eyed" look at the situation. What about the other side of the coin?....how many kids have been abducted, abused or killed/injured in traffic accidents going to/from school?.....then there is the issue of bullying in schools, often leaving children mentally scarred or even suicidal. I can certainly understand some parents opting to keep their kids safe at home and opting to take on the enormous burden of home schooling them. Obviously, some parents will be much better than others in rising to the challenge, but it is unfair and arrogant to simply label all home schooled kids as social misfits and their parents as failures. Families in remote rural areas, for example, have little choice in the matter. :character-oldtimer:

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Re: Home schooling

Post by lynny » 21 Jun 2018, 17:44

Children don't have to be home schooled to be taught their parents beliefs and worst traits.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by mavisbramston » 21 Jun 2018, 21:19

Thanks for the comments Kfhugo. I think its always good to have an alternative point of view.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by Dreamweaver » 22 Jun 2018, 10:13

I have a grandson with ADHD, amongst other more hidden conditions like anxiety and depression. The primary schooling system failed for him, no fault of the teachers. His father, a single parent, took him out of school, wrote a letter to the department saying he was not going to send the boy to school to fight with the teachers, but had no ability to take on home educating him either, and asked what the department intended to do about it. After some months out of school the boy was much improved psychologically, and then was able to access a pilot program for primary students similar to a secondary one for kids that didn't fit the system. Wonderful. He never looked back. I wonder though what the outcome would have been if his father had tried home schooling.
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Re: Home schooling

Post by Teddy » 22 Jun 2018, 10:40

Autism ,this condition is another reason where Home Schooling may be more effective than mainstream schooling.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by Perrorist » 22 Jun 2018, 12:57

Depends, Teddy, on how limiting the autism is and the kind of school available.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by mavisbramston » 22 Jun 2018, 21:42

In another life I taught in a special school where several kids were autistic. Never any problems. Autistic children need to be integrated not isolated. Sorry Teddy no disrespect intended but strongly disagree.
I believe shutting kids away from society is dangerous. We should not wrap kids up in cotton wool over protecting them.
I would liketo add home schoolers are not answerable to anyone. No inspections and parents teach on a whim. Kids are subjected to terrible bias.
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Re: Home schooling

Post by kfchugo » 22 Jun 2018, 23:02

Mavis, I agree that the school environment is mostly preferable to home schooling, if only for the childs emotional and social development. I am sure that home schooled kids have to sit exams to progress. While they are subject to their parents biases, isnt that also the case at school - teachers often have biases, prejudices and personal agenda's. No system of education is perfect and we need to accept that everyone is different as are their circumstances. Personally, I admire parents who successfully home school their own children.....the commitment and workload must be astronomical.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by Dreamweaver » 22 Jun 2018, 23:50

The home-schooled kids I've known have all been on correspondence courses, entailing exams. My sister was a governess to a couple of daughters of station property owners, and she was selected because of opting for that style of tutoring. But others get into it through rejecting the school system and society, prefer to have their kids socialise with other home-school families, in some cases church oriented, but still happy to accept the correspondence system. In these more modern times I guess it would be all via computer, on line education.
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Re: Home schooling

Post by Betty » 23 Jun 2018, 07:50

Teddy wrote:
22 Jun 2018, 10:40
Autism ,this condition is another reason where Home Schooling may be more effective than mainstream schooling.

I have a 9 year old great granddaughter that is autistic, she goes to mainstream school with no problem, it depends where on the scale of the autism spectrum the children are as to whether they can be accepted into a mainstream school or a special needs school also how the autism affects the children, each child is different in this respect.

When once at a mainstream school the head teacher after receiving various reports from the parents and their pediatrician the school can then apply for a grant to have a SENCO (special education needs co-ordinator) teacher in the school, the one at my great granddaughters school is absolutely marvelous with her.

My great granddaughter is 3 years behind academically and the head teacher wanted to give her a merit certificate but because these are reserved for the brighter children he made one up specially for her...........***** is the most cheerful little girl in school always a smile on her face and very sociable plus every time she passes my office she puts her head round the door and says, 'you all right'..........you have no idea how happy that made my great granddaughter to receive that certificate after seeing other children receive certificates and merit points for what they have achieved. :icon_biggrin:
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Re: Home schooling

Post by mavisbramston » 23 Jun 2018, 09:10

Slightlyoff topic.

Loved that post Betty. I read it three times .A silver peers gem! :happy-sunshine:
When I taught I often found the potential of kids with autism was under estimated. Autism is a huge issue and there is no such thing as a typically autistic kid.
One kid I taught was highly intelligent yet some fail to see how an autistic child can be intelligent!

May I say agree or disagree thank you for the intelligent debate from each side.

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Re: Home schooling

Post by Perrorist » 23 Jun 2018, 10:23

I've also had the pleasure of our autistic grandchildren doing well in a normal school environment. It's important that the school has teachers trained to deal with special needs children.

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