Iraq, past and present

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Iraq, past and present

Post by Dreamweaver » 15 Mar 2018, 00:48

I have lived in Iraq, under Saddam's government and all the subsequent governments.

First of all, let me state some facts:

During Saddam's era (Speaking of 1991 up to 2003):

1- You could drive from the North to the South of the country with confidence that you were safe.

2- Only the State had power, and the final word.

3-There was one party, u knew its evil, but it was only one.

4- Avoid politics, and you would live happily.

5- Salaries were bad, very bad.

6-Things were cheap, so cheap and affordable. Fuel was lest than 10 cents per liter.

7 - Higher Education was better.

8- Iraq was a sovereign country.

9-You couldn't travel abroad easily, no flights, you had to go to Jordan by car and then fly.

10- Kurds were denied high ranking/ sensitive positions in the government.

11- Food rationing was a good system to save the poor from famine (it was almost equally distributed and on-time).

12-Bad healthcare, bad services.

13- People almost lost contact with the outside world.

14- No Satellite dishes were allowed, only local and state-owned TV Channels were available.

15- There was a general fear, but fear of one man, one authority, and one powerful state.

16- Gov could suppress any riot or revolution by live ammunition/chemical gas / bombing.

17- No cellphones. Although there were limited internet and state-owned e-mail services.

18- Imported products were so expensive.

19-Supervised and secured border.

20- The country had pride, and was feared.
After 2003:

1- The whole country turned into a war-zone (except Kurdistan).

2- Weak, irresponsible, unprofessional police and security forces.

3- Bombings everywhere.

4- You could easily go to jail and be a terrorist for the silliest accusations (with no evidence or fair trial).

5- State institutions, departments, universities started to be run, managed by almost one sect.

6- Education, healthcare, Security went down very quickly, and still are extremely bad.

7- There were months without electricity.

8- Fuel prices spiked and became very expensive.

9- Unsupervised border lead to all kinds of products, goods, cars, to enter the market.

10- The rise of militias that had weapons, money, and worked for their own agenda.

11- The rise of terrorist groups and armies.

12- People of Iraq witnessed kidnappings and ransoms for the first time.

13- Airports were opened and there are now flights to almost everywhere.

14- No infrastructure is being rebuilt, although the country has continuously been destroyed for the past few decades.

15- The wide-spread corruption in government, leads to the wasting of the country's fortune (e.g $50 billion disappeared in one year from national budget).

16- A wide-spread wave of killing Doctors, scientists, ex-military pilots were witnessed.

17- Iraq is no longer a sovereign country.

18- Organized and random crime is in every corner of the country.

19- Millions of middle-class and upper-class have fled the country, including students, lawyers, doctors, engineers...etc.

20- Iraq has not been rebuilt, as was promised.

21- Deforestation of the good lands that were previously green.

The list goes on and on, but you get the idea, during Saddam, Iraq was bad. After that it became a hell, every bad thing maximized to 1000%, not only for Iraqis, but for the entire Middle East and the world. ... en-and-now
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Re: Iraq, past and present

Post by Slapsy » 15 Mar 2018, 14:21

After WMDs were shown to be just an excuse,didn't Howard suggest that they were bringing democracy to Iraq. When is it arriving?
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Re: Iraq, past and present

Post by Perrorist » 15 Mar 2018, 15:43

And Murdoch said petrol would be 20c / gallon in the US.

Under Saddam, the different ethnic and religious groups lived side by side. You could be a Sunni and have a Christian neighbour on one side and a Shi-ite on the other, with other groups nearby. Saddam was a Sunni, but secular in outlook. All that changed. Now they live in enclaves, with Shia dominant at all levels of government.

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Re: Iraq, past and present

Post by grandduke » 16 Mar 2018, 20:49

Thanks to the yanks. :teary
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Re: Iraq, past and present

Post by terra » 17 Mar 2018, 18:18

Good to see you're still alive and kicking oh mighty Duke de la Waters !

When we don't hear from you regularly, it's a concern that you may have fallen off your perch.
Stay well young fella !
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