"Twiggy" makes a good profit

[godfather]

You people make me want to open a wrist sometimes. Such a tiny self centred vision of the world. Your pensions and doles only get paid out of what people like Twiggy contribute. No bloke leaning on a shovel and demanding to be paid like a CEO will ever support you.

Sorry Di, not true my dear.
We have been paying into a so-called superfund since the mid 1940's.
If I remember rightly it was 7.5% when I started work in Australia.
That money was supposed to go into a fund to pay our pensions in due course.
It's not Forest or Gina or Clive who are paying our pensions. It is US......moi and you!

[grandduke]

Godfather there's a perception here that us left thinkers
are against businesses making a profit, one would have
to be dead between the ears to believe that, the union
movement has fought for years against business and right
wing thinkers to get a decent standard of living, imagine
where we would be without those prepared to stand up
to such as big Gina who would have us working for $2.00
dollars a day.

The new game is 457 visas, pay lower wages and no conditions
like super, exploit them then ship them out, is this what our
right wing brothers and sisters lend their support to.

I will be watching with interest should Abbott come to power
just exactly what they have planned for this country, and i will
use every conceivable occasion to remind our blue ribbon types. :- :-

[donander]

You people make me want to open a wrist sometimes. Such a tiny self centred vision of the world. Your pensions and doles only get paid out of what people like Twiggy contribute. No bloke leaning on a shovel and demanding to be paid like a CEO will ever support you.

Sorry Di, not true my dear.
We have been paying into a so-called superfund since the mid 1940's.
If I remember rightly it was 7.5% when I started work in Australia.
That money was supposed to go into a fund to pay our pensions in due course.
It's not Forest or Gina or Clive who are paying our pensions. It is US......moi and you!

Godfather, now you're just making things up as you go along, anything to suit the argument of the moment. The safety net Australian age pension has always been paid out of general revenue. doh

Apologies if I did not understand what you meant by the generic 'We'.

[godfather]

Definition of "WE" for this occasion = Those who have paid a percentage of their earnings towards their future pensions before compulsory super became the norm! Quite simple to understand for normal people. :wink

GD, I have no grudge against any big business if they play it fair.....Australian fair!
But in their extreme greed most of the bigger companies have not done that.
I have worked for a couple of very large companies who went out of their way to avoid taxes, benefits and super contributions.
I even worked for a mob of crooks who told us that we must vote Liberal or we could lose our jobs. That was a fair way back.
I didn't vote Liberal out of spite and they never found out.

You are correct, the 457 visas are very handy to be used by the miners and I will also keep an eye open for any such abuse.
Gina is waiting with bated breath for Tony to become PM. I'll bet that she'll have an applications for 1,000's of 457 visas on Tony's table before he can say "Jack Horner!"

Rudd is gaining in the poll this morning but it's still a few more points between them.